Any advice for learning Ballade 4? I absolutely love listening to the set, but my ranking is more on my experience from playing them (I haven't played #4 or #2 in public, but have worked through them quite a bit on my own time). Not all people possess both the technique and the musical awareness, therefore it is reasonable to make a distinction here. Everything fits nicely and you do NOT need a large hand. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Reply #14 on: December 17, 2011, 06:21:29 PM, Current repertoire: "Come to Jesus" (in whole-notes), Reply #15 on: December 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM. ballads: 3, 2, 1, and 4 (easiest to hardest) 2 and 1 are a tossup though really. Ballade in G minor, Op. How do you rank them? might be more clear if you say from favorite to least favorite. I'm therefore, assuming you've looked at all of it. It just flows better), the Chopin is like this crazy Ragtime and makes me feel like I'm about to drive off a cliff when I go to play it. They are all HOT. In my opinion, after I did 25/2, 25/1, and 10/4 I felt like the. The second and third have different challenges, so I would suggest you read through the more difficult parts of each one and choose the one with the more familiar technique to you. Johann Sebastian Bach: 1685-1750: 631: Ludwig van Beethoven: 1770-1827 The Coda is nasty. Ballades 1 and 3 are great pieces of music, but I don't have a deep desire to play them the way I do for 2 and 4. What is the goal of learning Chopin Ballade? Be . This is the end of a piano piece i'm Why would we have a rest when its the end of a piece? It was worth the effort! .And I'm only 1/24th of the way into my disagreements with that list. Someone who's played Chopin G major prelude and Moszkowski's G min etude would be well prepared for 10/12 and might rank it easier than others might. Talking about "musicality" is total, subjective BS; if you're just asking about technical difficulty, they're (easiest to hardest) 3-1-2-4. - Quora Answer (1 of 8): As another person who answered a similar question to this has said, this is a very subjective question but here are some rankings from Piano Street's forum. Obviously, people will have different perspectives based on hand size, proportions, natural strengths and weaknesses, etc. Welcome to the Piano World Piano ForumsOver 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments. Piano accessories and music gift items, digital piano dolly, music theme party goods, and more! Chopin's ballades undoubtedly referred in their general concept to the great Romantic poetry, and especially to the ballads of Mickiewicz; they did not, however, possess any substance experienced by the composer or any literary programmes (although some commentators have been inclined to ascribe such programmes to them). It's the easiest and the most beautiful. They have the time to learn them, but not play through them? I had no clue that it was his 3rd Ballade until years later. It begins with a bold, ascending musical announcement which falls back and dissolves into shadowy harmonic ambiguity. Since I am an old amateur, I have no idea about audition, competition, performance, etc. how to guitar when you're a pianist - part 2. Well, I'm 15, been playing for 9 years, and this darn thing took me, You might have seen one of my videos without knowing it was that nut from the forum, Reply #24 on: January 22, 2015, 04:56:53 AM. 38 . What order would you rate in difficulty these pieces of Chopin's, 1 being the highest and 8 the lowest etc..-:Fantasy Impromptu, 1st Ballade in G minor , 2nd Ballade in F major , 3rd Ballade in Ab Major, 4th ballade in F minor, fantasy in f minor, (heroic) polonaise op. Chopin Difficulty Ratings. Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 01:34:20 AM, Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 01:35:46 AM, Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 04:09:25 AM, no.1,2 or 3. You get the idea. Someone who's played Chopin G major prelude and Moszkowski's G min etude would be well prepared for 10/12 and might rank it easier than others might. I really love the slower moments, and the Coda is really cool. That feeling doesn't sit well if I'm playing it for people haha. Thats why I'm learning it, Reply #17 on: April 03, 2005, 09:45:42 AM. Chopin's nocturnes are almost entirely out of reach until you're at an early advanced level. Keep it light and playful. New York City. Please Pass It On! After listening to the ballades several times, I've ranked them. There is no way 10/6 is the easiest. 9 (Butterfly). Reply #20 on: November 07, 2014, 02:39:22 PM. As someone who has learned 23 out of the 24 etudes of Op. He dedicated it to one of his friends at the time, Baron Nathaniel Stockhausen, ambassador of the Kingdom of Hanover. Scherzo4. One of our local - brilliant - teachers/performers is performing both sets of the Chopin Etudes this coming Monday evening at the University of Victoria. Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:57:53 AM, Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 09:41:46 AM. 23 was published in 1836. 10 and Op. 24 posts Page 1 of 2 1, 2. I was sight reading through it yesterday, and found it not to be that tricky, of course it will require alot of work, but it wasnt very hard to sight read (except for 1 page, can't remember which). Exact same here! Chopin Ballade 4 Difficulty At just shy of twelve minutes in duration the 'Ballade No.4' by Chopin is not a long piano piece, but what is packed into it is incredible, detailed, and difficult. **DISCLAIMER**Rankings like this are subjective and should not be taken too seriously, think of this as more of a guide than an absolutely exact ranking. op. Same here, was terrified of the double notes in no.2.still am, J.S Bach Italian Concerto,Beethoven Sonata op.2 no.2,Mozart Sonatas K.330&333,Chopin Scherzo no.2,Etude op.10 no.12&Fantasie Impromptu, Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 05:59:06 AM. Definitely don't start with the first or fourth ballades. Chopin / Compositions / Composition. You think you're like "out in the clear", but nope, ends on the iii of the initial key haha. It continues to get more difficult until the Ballade is way too difficult, and it ends smoothly (Shortest Ballade). I would save that piece for last. Ia/2-3 2. Some of the harder ones took multiple attempts, and I've cycled through many of the easier ones multiple times as well. My rationale for ranking them the way I did: #4 - Most difficult because it has more of a contrapuntal quality than the other 3, some rhythmic difficulty, is the most lengthy, and the coda is very difficult. After listening to the ballades several times, I've ranked them. If you have the technique to play Nos. What are the difficulties of Chopin pieces from easiest to hardest? Reply #13 on: April 03, 2005, 02:42:03 AM, Reply #14 on: April 03, 2005, 03:44:27 AM, Reply #15 on: April 03, 2005, 05:06:48 AM, Reply #16 on: April 03, 2005, 05:48:00 AM, I think the third is definately the easiest. This is one of Chopin's most beautiful pieces; sing out the two melody lines. Is it to use in the college application, competition, public performance or simply to learn? Do a search. pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts. Here is one (there are far more detailed ones): The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. Brandon_W_T . 1 (Aeolian Harp). 1 in G minor, op. A major (0' 30") Prlude in F major and Andantino in D minor, KK Anh. A list from 1 to 8 would also be great (if you have the time). Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 08:08:49 AM, If you choose to study the 1st Ballade, check out the Piano Sage Blog's article -, Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 09:01:58 AM. Recommended editions . The 4th is universally regarded as being the most difficult, as to truly master it, requires a great amount of musical maturity, something that is not as important in the more virtuoso works of Chopin's youth such as Ballades 1 and 2. Again, all 4 pieces are masterpieces from a master artist, and they are all worth a listen and another. Post a reply. #1 - Some difficult passagework, some rhythmic problems, and the code is hard. Here is my list (#1 is my favorite, #4 is my least favorite). Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 10:48:22 AM. ago This is my ordering. (OK I know I posted a whiny message yesterday, but really I am having a blast working onthis one). 2 is also really cool, but I just think it feels like an Etude. 25 (all but 25/4 - will do in Jan), I think it is possible to group them in broad categories of relative difficulty. There's a climatic with big chord, a fast and difficult broken chord setion with left hand jump, left hand rolling arpeggios and a sparkling waltz-like section. 49," seems to suggest Beethovenian seriousness in its Lento introduction (track 9) but turns into something. 10 and Op. 10.2: chromatics with legato on 3-4-5 whilst using 1-2 for harmony on the. Ballade no.4 in the middle? After careful deliberation I have settled on nine levels of difficulty, which I have divided into three groups: 1-3 (easy), 4-6 (medium), 7-9 (difficult). Fri 11 Aug 2000 12.21 EDT. Users of this site and the piano sheet music library agree to be bound by Piano Street Terms and Conditions. Here's my mini rant on why I ordered them this way: 4 - The very opening motif when it comes back in A major, then has that little sweeping cadenza, goddamn. Reply #23 on: April 04, 2005, 01:54:14 AM. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I get chills just thinking about it. Beethoven - Sonata in C sharp minor, Op 27 No 12, Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 01:13:05 PM, Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 06:19:47 PM. It's effective, but I prefer to listen to it than to work through it. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. All rights reserved. Be sure to leave your thoughts in the comments below!Apologies for the re-upload - I found some errors with the first version.I do not own most of the recordings in this video. There is one nocturne you can attempt if you've had success with some of the previous Chopin suggestions, though: Nocturne in G minor, op 15 no 3 - grade 8 RCM Ballade 4 is my favorite musical piece, period. 1 in G minor, Op. Who is it? G major (1') 2. [Nor do they have the time to play through them. I would still like to keep this thread going, because it is an interesting point of discussion. I guess it could, but if you are mature enough to play one, then you should be ok to do any of those works. People were just commenting the in terms of technique, it's the least difficult of the ballades, which is true. The hardest part here is bringing out the inner voices when they appear, and some of the arpeggios require a tricky inner-finger stretch. We had this discussion recently and it seems that the types of technique you have affect severly what you think. - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts. Chopin Difficulty Ratings. The sheer . Answer (1 of 30): I'll answer this in a roundabout way. I am currently working on the g minor ballad and LOVING IT! 2m/pedal 24 rank Cavaille-Coll style pipe organ Re: Chopin ballades difficulties? Take the 3rd. I would say that if you can play any one of them well, you are technically capable of playing all of them. Both Ballade 1 and 3 have beautiful melodies, but Ballade 3 is more in brillante style, so I prefer it least. it's decided now I will play Fotoplayer! I second looking at the Henle ranking. - Parties, Tours, Projects & More Information - - Concerts, News,FAQs, Archives, Will getting a Steinway make me a pariah here? 23. What does matter, is which one you like best.. Great for motivation After you've decided which piece, prepare a work schedule and stick to it. The Relaunch of Pleyel in France Produced Far Away, Quote from: pytheamateur on December 12, 2011, 10:48:22 AM, Quote from: starstruck5 on December 12, 2011, 06:19:47 PM, https://pianosage.blogspot.com/2011/08/chopin-ballade-no1-in-g-minor-tips.html, Quote from: fftransform on December 14, 2011, 09:01:58 AM, Quote from: scott13 on December 14, 2011, 11:04:31 AM, Quote from: pbryld on December 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM, Quote from: philb on December 18, 2011, 09:41:46 AM, Quote from: maxy on November 07, 2014, 05:05:43 PM. It's really all a matter of what the individual player has experience in. Chopins ballades are among his best works and I believe all 4 of them are nothing short of a masterpiece. 622 Agree mostly with this, however op 25/12 is incredibly difficult to play with full accuracy, it's very easy to play wrong notes at that tempo, it requires a reasonable amount of stamina also,. I like Ballade F minor for complexity and maturity. It's just very dense and longer than the others. Fascinating article on the acoustics of the new hall Visit Virtual Sheet Music to learn more Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5, Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources. I learned that these pieces only come with time and patience. They are considered to be some of the most . Currently learning Ballade 2, and it's definitely my second favorite. Aargh, most people are underrating the difficult of Ballade No. Reply #18 on: April 03, 2005, 03:12:22 PM. My favorite part is when the second theme comes back for the second time in A-major. The Chopin Ballades are sort of big enough pieces to where you wouldn't learn one just to "be able to play the others." No.1 is the one that everyone wants to learn, there's no denying that you will learn alot from it. 3 - I heard the C# minor section when I was really young, and it really struck me. We obviously are not talking at the same level. . Reply #10 on: April 02, 2005, 07:29:43 AM. You mostly can't go wrong with any of these guys. I will say - the beautiful Eb major theme in the piece that little interchange from the b6 harmony back to the tonic. by Jhon on Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:55 pm. Substance is not to be expected of a Grande tude de Paganini, probably. Copyright Op 111 Productions, 2001-2022. I just love the swirling F minor theme that just brews and brews throughout, it's so creepy. Ia/1 (1') These are all really high up on my 'favorites' list haha. https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3683.msg32884.html#msg32884, Quote from: SteinwayGuy on March 31, 2005, 05:55:19 AM, Quote from: SteinwayModelD on March 31, 2005, 07:03:49 AM, Quote from: Waldszenen on April 02, 2005, 07:29:43 AM, Quote from: iumonito on April 01, 2005, 05:12:42 AM, Quote from: iumonito on April 03, 2005, 03:44:27 AM, Quote from: Fred Smalls on April 02, 2005, 06:26:40 PM, Quote from: JP on April 03, 2005, 03:27:35 PM, Quote from: SteinwayGuy on April 03, 2005, 09:02:40 PM. Great Chopin interpreters include: Krystian Zimerman, Artur Rubinstein, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Maurizio Pollini, Dinu Lipatti, Solomon, Seong Jin-Cho, Moiseiwitsch, Ivan Moravec, Fialkowska, Jorge Bolet, Samson Francois, Rafal Blechacz, Dang Thai Son, and Maria Joao Pires. I always think of this one as going down a hallway and opening doors to each room. These are the hardest pieces ever written for the PIANO. Users of this site and the piano sheet music library agree to be bound by Piano Street Terms and Conditions. There are lots of threads discussing the ballades and scherzos. Although there are some givens (Rach 3 is "harder" than a Bach 2-part Invention) the vast majority of other questions come down to personal details what else have you played, how did it sound, what recordings/concerts have you listened to, what sort of condition is your technique in. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. There is nothing better in this world than smoking a A student asked me what pieces use the middle pedal and i How normal is it to have a live performance that isnt Just wondering if anyone know how to play this because I What are some other Piano songs that have a similar feel Press J to jump to the feed. A pianist well versed in arpeggios would have an easier time with 25/12. Polonaise-Fantaisie. It's not Michelle Mares, is it? (Hunter Thompson), Perfection itself is imperfection - Vladimir Horowitz, I have always been under the impression that the 3rd Ballade was the easiest. pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts. What is the hardest piece to play on piano? . The colors brought out in this piece are like nothing Ive seen of that era. Difficulty 1 (3) Other works Two Bourres, KK VIIb/1-2 1. Both the Baron and his wife took piano lessons from Chopin. All rights reserved. Is there anything that you like about it in particular that I should listen for? The Ballade No. There's nothing offensive in it; the coda reminds me a lot of the Barcarolle, another favorite of mine. I don't think that anyone was suggesting that it was a "one-weeker" or even easy. The ones I don't are linked below.3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0JEuFiqXO81: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taY5oHleS4I2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnWrFWUJWTI4: https://youtu.be/A3Wriv-QEtE I try to always be working on one or two of them in addition to other pieces. Then I like Ballade F major for the changes of mood. I've started the process of learning all 24, and they're all extremely difficult, and dangerous when not done correctly. When I was 11 years old, my piano teacher, a stereotypical little-old-lady teacher who, in fairness, was a pretty good teacher for young kids, gifted me a 4-LP set of well-known classical pieces. There's also a negative side. Boy the scherzi seem more technically difficult than the ballades especially number 3 in C# & and 4 in E major. 2: This is so hard to rank as last because I love this piece. here is my list, easiest to hardest: Ballade 2. It's really all a matter of what the individual player has experience in. This piece has 2 totally contrasting themes, one so calm and intimate, and the second one comes in and rips through the first one. It is really morbid though, that the piece swings back to the opening motif, and ends in A minor. Actually, my teacher has advised me to hold off on the Ballade's until I have played a bit more of Chopin. Your list scares me! No.3 is technically the easiest like what everyone here has voiced but it has alot in terms of musical content. Yes, it requires technique to execute "lightness in touch" and "voicing and phrasing" etc but it requires musical maturity to know when to apply these techniques. I quit the piano! The most difficult one is the Fourth. 4 Ballades 3, 1, 2, 4 4 Scherzos 2, 4, 3, 1 You know this is just subjective - don't argue! Ballade 3 Ballade 1 Ballade 4 Ballade 2 How do you rank them? New Feature: Live Streamed Piano Recitals. The 4th would require more dedication and time to perfect, but you would be rewarded by being able to play one of the most sublime pieces ever written. I still like one more than the others. Something that is always important to keep in mind is your background. I feel like Liszt can make passagework like this fit way better under your hands (for exampls - the F major section of Un Sospiro. Seems like a nobrainer to me. We start with tea and chocolate cake, sitting in his light, airy kitchen/dining room. Both main themes are extremely memorable and extraordinarily beautiful. Nocturnes (Easiest to most Difficult) 4+ Nocturne c minor KK IVb no.. This is my personal breakdown, and may not apply to you or anyone else: Ballade 4: I happen to have no trouble with any of the technical difficulties Ballade 4 throws out there, so I would not rank it the hardest. The final "Introduction and Allegro, Op. It is a bit similar to ranking my own children though as they are all amazing. Ia/3 (0' 30") Difficulty 1.5 (9) Mazurkas Mazurka in D major, KK Anh. The ENTIRE piece is extremely pianistic, even the coda. I love how light-hearted this piece is; it's definitely easier to get through than the others, but it has it's crazy moments, but just overall it's just an absolute joy to play through haha. Anybody who says otherwise hasn't played them, Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 11:04:31 AM, Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 07:29:54 PM, Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 09:04:57 PM. For me, 1 and 3 are easy (er) to understand musically, 2 and 4 are (even more) difficult to understand musically. 24 Chopin Etudes Difficulty Ranking (Easiest to hardest) 27 related questions found. Also, both are classified as being "moderately difficult" in Maurice Hinson's Guide to the Pianist's Repertoire. His Nocturne in Bb minor Op.9 has something similar right near the opening, that slight modulation is just incredible, so subtle, but it just makes it a perfect moment. This opens the door to the quietly melancholy first theme in G minor, rising over an ominous 6/4 heartbeat. Reply #21 on: November 07, 2014, 05:05:43 PM, Reply #22 on: November 08, 2014, 02:23:20 PM, Reply #23 on: January 22, 2015, 03:54:38 AM, Hello everyone, I was just reading this, and I thought I would say that if I were a newcomer to piano, after reading this I may think that #3 was a "piece-o-cake". 1 can be considered "easy" in the sense that you encounter new material only a couple of times; that is, many parts are repeated so the amount of material you need to learn is rather insignificant. I was just listening to one of my recordings (Tamas Vasary) of the Chopin Ballades and Scherzos, and I decided to learn one (I haven't before). Scherzo 2. The Chopin piece is formidable, but it's more of a general pianistic workout with nothing too terrifying involved as long as you're in shape and at the right level of musicianship. I guess I everyone has different abilities, considering every list is different. **DISCLAIMER**Rankings like this are subjective and should not be taken too seriously, think of this as more of a guide than an absolutely exact ranking.Leav. Pieces by composer, ordered by difficulty. 4: Another lovely work, this one is probably the most epic, grand, and triumphant of them all being the longest and most technically difficult. But yarghhhhh playing LH octave leaps with that RH passagework, just doesn't feel good. When a search is in progress, something will be found. That is one of the most perfect moments in a piece by Chopin I can come across. 2 in F major, op. Fun Stuff! Over 100,000 members from around the world. **DISCLAIMER**Rankings like this are subjective and should not be taken too seriously, think of this as more of a guide than an absolutely exact ranking. There is a lifetime's worth of work in these etudes. Recently, though, I found them on YouTube (performed by Krystian Zimerman), and I was amazed that I had never heard such beautiful pieces. Andantino in D minor, KK Anh. Answer (1 of 2): If you mean by "playing it", that you've tried the first couple measures, then no, no one would expect it to be difficult. 23; Ballade no. I'm so darn sick of seeing this thread come up that I have to succumb and try to do an actual ranking. I'll never understand the point of threads like this. Of the four 'Ballades' that Chopin completed the fourth is felt by a substantial number of pianists to be the most challenging. You probably can learn no.3 in a month or 2 if you have already learned no.1 ( for the notes at least). A pianist who has played a lot of Joplin would probably find 25/9 (and maybe 25/4) on the easier side. Ballade number 4 does have the coda which requires alot of power and excellent double note technique. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The first ballade's beauty is that it doesn't sound very difficult. here is my list, easiest to hardest: Money does not make happiness, but it can buy you a piano. Reply #19 on: April 03, 2005, 03:27:35 PM, Reply #20 on: April 03, 2005, 04:14:58 PM, i dont know why but i think everyone always underrated 3rd ballade, Reply #21 on: April 03, 2005, 09:02:40 PM, Reply #22 on: April 04, 2005, 01:08:07 AM. Of the self-contained longish pieces, the ten-minute Polonaise-Fantaisie - a late best Chopin work, published in 1846 - is the perfect musical novella, unique in structure . The Easiest and Hardest of the Ballades and Scherzos? - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts. And if you think I've misplaced any of them, or if you think I'm not appreciating one of them enough, I'd like to hear why. "I always loved the Ballade," he says as he pours the tea. It is a waste of your time and mine to engage in this banter. Anyways, Henle lists the first three ballades as an 8/9 difficulty, and the 4th ballade as a 9/9 difficulty, so they should all be pretty similar to some extent. And I'm only 1/24th of the way into my disagreements with that list. Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 01:27:57 PM, Reply #19 on: November 06, 2014, 10:06:08 PM. Here's my take: As someone who has learned 23 out of the 24 etudes of Op. To add to the argument about "technique". Works by difficulty Frdric Chopin See also the original overview of these pieces. Recently, though, I found them on YouTube (performed by Krystian Zimerman), and I was amazed that I had never heard such beautiful pieces. They range in difficulty from grade 9 - ARCT (which is basically the highest level). Fryderyk Chopin. (Built about 45 minutes from me!) 2. To me, 3 months seems like a relatively short time to spend on a piece of this level and musical depth. I am ranking these based on Rubinsteins recordings (which I think are the best), so here they are favorite to least favorite: 1: Not only my favorite Ballade or Chopin piece, but one of my favorite pieces of music in classical repertoire. I tackled four this semester, and it was a struggle. The fourth is the most difficult but the first is the most commonly played, so, if you intend to compete, it will be judged more harshly. Pieces on pianolibrary.org listed by difficulty. Fred Smalls, in the end does the difficulty really matter? Both the First and Second Ballades are listed on LRSM, LLCM and LTCL syllabuses. The four-movement structure of each concerto is novel, and Shelley handles the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra well from the keyboard, an impressive feat given the difficulty of the piano parts. op. Ballade #4: 95% of the Ballade is really difficult, but it can't be as. Included in that set were several pieces by . I left it . That being said Ballade 2 is still MILES ahead of so much other piano rep in my opinion. Ballades; Ballade no. Here is my list (#1 is my favorite, #4 is my least favorite). Ballade 4 (only the coda is difficult, but it is more difficult than the previous three) 25 no. "It's a piece I went back to many times. You can tell Chopin was dealing with some sh*t when writing this. 25 (all but 25/4 - will do in Jan), I think it is possible to group them in broad categories of relative difficulty. This is exactly what I felt when I s. It was like a mini-soundbite on a website, the piece wasn't even listed. Reply #11 on: April 02, 2005, 06:26:40 PM, Reply #12 on: April 02, 2005, 08:46:29 PM. 1 - Obviously an incredible piece, but I feel like there's a threshold here where there are some unpianistic bits (compared to the others). And I will maybe want to try one of the other ones or a scherzo, so what do you all think? I think the order may have something to do with how hard they are ;), but then I would change number 2 with 3. Did anyone else read and reread this post/list and wonder where they went wrong? I would be interested in knowing this, too. Copyright Op 111 Productions, 2001-2022. I found these interesting Chopin difficulty ratings through browsing the web. There has been many debates around this, but, most pianists would agree on this list probably (assuming that you are learning it at indicated tempo) Here are the hardest ones to perfect: 1. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); It's quite hard to rank them this way. It seems that Ballade 4 is a lot of peoples favorite one. Re: The Easiest and Hardest of the Ballades and Scherzos? Answer (1 of 3): Great question. 3: Probably the most popular. It has vastly more musical content and substance than La campanella. We had this discussion recently and it seems that the types of technique you have affect severly what you think. 53 , grand polonaise (with intro, piano version). I was wondering what would be the best Chopin ballade to start with. A number of parameters have been considered when assessing the level of difficulty. 25 no. Others who are far more knowledgeable have on this thread rendered a general difficulty opinion, and the consistency of that consensus would incline me to believe the answer to both of your questions is "yes." . WHOA! Something about it feels super jarring to me, it's like a chopped up version of his Op25 #12 Etude. Thanks! I actually performed them all - for a very long time it was my life-time goal. 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