Almost everything from early iPhone OS to 12, and from 12 onwards worked ok, even with major resolution changes. They hide the standard version on the website, but the specific picture they show in-app[0] is pretty clear about the license option, so if it's 97% of people choosing the subscription via that screen i'd believe them. (EDIT: Looks like between starting writing this and submitting it, you're no longer in the gray from downvotes!) "We didn't choose this, you chose this!" By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. At least, that was one of the options they mentioned when I complained about the lack of the option to buy a license. Choose Account > Sign in to another account and enter your account details. At least being forced to by investors makes sense. Same here. I recently moved from keepass (using kpcli) to bitwarden (so I can share passwords with my spouse), but am so far, very unhappy with the command line tools. It's not dishonest. Sorry for the confusion. I can barely use 2 electron apps after which my computer grinds to a crawl (Im running VSCode and Slack mostly). Try 1Password free for 14 days, then keep going with a 1Password subscription*. If you're concerned, you're more than welcome to switch your subscription over to direct billing through our website. I know exactly how to do it, I've tried out what has been described above. Over the past few years, we've been working on consolidating 1Password's business logic into a single Rust-powered core that could be shared across all our apps. However the differential factor of 1Password, which was that it _didn't_ provide the storage if you didn't want it, has now gone away. I have a mixed computing environment and have purchased versions 3, 4, 5, 6 & 7 for three platforms. I am a 1PW subscription user and am happy with the product (however, seeing they are moving to Electron means that is very subject to change). 1Password has continually added new/better features year after year and the price is tiny compared to the value I get (and then subsequently provide to people in my 'family'). Or you could have just kept the existing AppKit version and update it to work with the Rust core?. I don't know how I missed this. You have Deezer and Spotify. I found it to be superior to 1Password (tho I havent used that in a few years so I donno if they improved it). While that's true, the good thing is, that you don't really need it, the browser extension is enough. All in all, it was a big mess. So you had the beautifully engineered experience of macOS to draw native user experiences from, and then you just threw it out because you wanted parity? but look at something like Adobe CC, what exactly does moving from a purchase to a subscription benefit me? I purchased 1Password 4 in 2014 and have been using 1Password ever since. Unless they decide to prevent people from exporting their passwords, of course and that's a big enough dealbreaker for me that I'd move away anyway, not caring how fancy or advanced the rest of their UX is. Or for a security-focused app like 1password I'd have believed something like "we don't want to be responsible for security problems if you decide not to upgrade, thus you must buy a yearly license" but that wasn't the message at all. (Personal annoyance: locking new features like the redesigned autofill overlay to the subscription-only version even though the Safari extension fully supports it for standalone, but not the others.). Go ahead! Yes it is a waste of time, if you want to spend time doing other things in your life. I love mac pure native apps! I thought the trust model of one vendor supplying the password manager but not the storage (I was using DropBox sync too at the time) was a great way to ensure that my data is safe. Welcome! Bitwarden's model is consumer friendly. I moved to Bitwarden from Lastpass also, and I'm definitely happy for the most part. Since we were rebuilding our app from the ground up, it was a significant slow-down on development to create a user interface for both Electron and SwiftUI, requiring two separate teams of platform developers for every feature we needed to implement. > I'd be hopeful that whatever tradeoffs y'all will be making moving to Electron, the "native" feel of the macOS client wouldn't be sacrificed. I don't know how subscription fixes your problem. same here this is when i switched to bitwarden and haven't looked back! The CLI is great too. This popular service is available across many platforms including Windows, Android, iOS and Mac, just to mention a few. If 1Password doesnt ask you to move your data, tap Settings > Advanced > Migrate data to 1Password account, then tap your account and tap Move data. A successful brute-force attack on the vault (unlikely) means you've lost both your password and your OTP secret. I've also had 1Password for a shared business vault for years as well. I'm sorry for not being more clear earlier as to why we couldn't support two separate teams for the same platform. Enpass works perfectly for me (I don't require family sharing, though, so no idea if it's lacking in that respect). https://1password.community/discussion/comment/601917#Comment_601917 Lostwalllet 1 yr. ago No support for local vaults means I'm gone. I did this with Photoshop for years, $399 per copy was perfectly fine for me because I spent that money every 3 or 4 years. I imagine I am not alone with such a sense of disappointment. It keeps the vendor financially healthy, stable and willing to keep developing the stuff you use. Http (not https) traffic sniffing, And let's not forget about the more subtle effects, like losing the right of first sale, silent T&C changes, mandatory updates, etc - things that are only to the vendor's benefit. I use chrome shortcuts. It's not going away any time soon, the app is still available for MacOS and the browser extensions work just fine. The lack of autofill in 1Password 6 is making me seriously considering for an upgrade to 1Password 7. If as a user your needs are not met, whether that's due to sluggishness from Electron, incompatibility from having a native-only solution, whathaveyou, then all you really have to do is wait. 1Password 8 for Mac is available to download on the AgileBits website. I'm with you on this one. It's not possible now, they removed this function. If 1Password doesnt ask you to migrate your data, choose Help > Tools > Migrate Standalone Vaults to Account, then select your account and click Continue. i use syncthing to take care of the replication. Been a standalone user for years and a coworker asked me recently how I got the standalone license because he didnt think it existed anymore. I don't _want_ the ongoing development. The other issue people seemed concerned about is 1Password 8 requiring a subscription. I personally think KeePass and passwordstore are more powerful and more reliable in long term (already on my way move to KeePass), but they're too much trouble to many users. I guess Im the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Try FREE for 14 days Try FREE for 14 days Try FREE for 14 days All 1Password accounts include Unlimited Devices Sadly switching password managers, especially if you share with a family, is really painful. This is a lame justification; software companies were quite capable of sales rather than subscriptions and have been throughout most of their existence. My problem with Electron is not a security issue -sorry if that was what it looked like. Yes it has been a breeze to switch to it, especially with their native import of Lastpass logins. Was this a healthy and sustainable business before, or were these changes necessary for survival? I wish I had a ten'er for everytime I swore at 1PW and professed my love for Bw. Agreed - software like this doesn't exist in a vacuum of frozen dependencies (at least not until Urbit takes over). In this kinds of a scenario, you can set extra fields (and their corresponding values) in Bitwarden after inspecting the field elements in Dev tools. If you can convince someone to provide you their password, it's highly likely you'll also be able to convince them to also provide you their time-based OTP. Let's be super clear about 1passwords licensing too. But in the majority of cases the customer is not always delighted by this move. December 31, 2022. (Of course, not only had I moved on to other projects, but I had long sold the type of computer the shareware was created for!). Perfect - thank you! Log in to sites and fill forms securely with a single click and much more. When you open the app for the first time, you'll see all your accounts. That doesn't make the macOS experience better, it makes it worse. Get to know 1Password 8 for Windows. You can click and drag the clipping box to move it or click and drag in the bottom right corner to resize it. 1Passwords dark mode has also been improved, as has item editing. One other thing I do not like about BW (but not enough to switch) is that when you click out of the bitwarden window, it disappears and loses your place so you have to navigate to the secret again. I'd be curious to know what you're referring to since I don't really keep an eagle eye on this stuff, I just use their product. So no matter if it's in Dropbox, 1Password's servers, or your own hard drive, if anyone obtains a copy of the password file they. Do they have some kind of story of working together? A Yubikey or another TPM-based auth would be a better choice. A sucessful brute-force attack against a remote account using a safe password (re: password managers) is very unlikely! Everyone else, no matter how well they do business is impacted to a degree. I totally agree that primitives are some of the least important parts of choosing password managers, but what I like about KeePass is that you can use Argon2 as the password derivation function and specify your hardness factors. I'd love to do this. Been a good decade, but bye. Let's Encrypt SSL/TLS certificates are free, as is Apache/Nginx/Caddy to reverse proxy Nextcloud or any other solution (if a web based interface is needed). Maybe a little of column A and column B, honestly. And the fact that we need to constantly change stuff just for the sake of change is the problem. Is it good or bad to store in iCoud/Dropbox for example? Thanks. You take money to provide software. Bitwarden has slowly been adding the features I wanted when I had left Lastpass - and at this point it just works for my workflow. I used to have keepas/lastpass/dashlane - but 1password is the only one I've managed to convince family members to use as well. Strongbox supports both, Secrets use iCloud. They tried very hard to hide all info of a standalone existing. I have bitwarden for my company stuff, and I find it . very clumsy. 1. Syncthing+keepass/x/c, or pass+git if you're more techy. Kind of annoying if you are on a website that resists autofill or want to copy something from custom fields. Why not? Man in the middle attack, My suggestion is, try it after it's released and then decide. > You'd get rid of a working solution because of an implementation decision? Now that they have sooo much more money, they suddenly can't afford separate developers for different platforms they should be able to hire 10x more people now. Keylogger, 1Password subscription (Get 50% off your first year) 1Password 8 for Mac; tip. But unfortunately, having an additional team that needed to implement the UI for every single new feature was a significant slow-down, and we collectively realized that we could not meet our deadlines nor maintain this long term. You're welcome to reach out to support@1Password.com to connect with our billing team to see if there might be any discounts available for your particular scenario. Bitwarden and iCloud Keychain user here. macOS has been less shy about deprecating old APIs and forcing software updates. This new trend of doing these apps once, with far easier programming languages in a connected environment with plenty of docs, crash report data and things like stack overflow really makes it look that we are talking about cheap people trying to make a quick profit not unlike those free to play games. That might be 2 months from now or it might be 2+ years. But they won't let me. You also don't need the Mac app with 1Password. I really like their service. Let me tell you, as someone who used 1password since 3.x .. when I went to buy 7.x standalone it took me over an hour to find the page that let me buy standalone over three sessions. If you _actually_ believed that all apps should look and behave the same on any OS, why does the Android version look and behave nothing like the Mac app? Hi, long-time user, customer, and word-of-mouth recommender of 1Password for the nine years my Hacker News account has been active (give or take a few months). You now have literally my entire digital life. i did this last year and it wasn't very smooth to say the least. I try to support projects like that too. I think they may have even emailed it to people at one point (I've been a user since v3). Or something else? 1Password 8 is rebuilt from the ground up with an all-new design and powerful personalization. Im extremely disappointed to see this turn into yet another sub-native browser-in-a-window experience. Ps. You might also need something like ngrok ( https://ngrok.com/ ) for publically accessing the instance if you're behind NAT and are hosting it on a homelab, or alternatively just put it on one of the VPSes that you're using, if you have any. A password manager doesn't need frequent updates. I am a computing student and I do understand the effort needed for app development. 1Password 8 is rebuilt from the ground up with an all-new design and powerful personalization. Then look for an invitation email from 1Password to join your family or team. Apps for Mac, iOS, Windows, Android, and Linux are all included. Will user accept this? 7 months ago by IanDorfman. Well, you can, but then it's a compromise for at least 2 out of these 3 platforms. My knowledge of how it works is that it always stores your passwords in an encrypted blob that can only be decrypted with a combination of username, "master password", and vault password. The integrations are great. Most often it was a thank you note. It's seemless, it works (on everyplatform) and it's easy to use. I buy three clients every upgrade windows, ios and mac. Those users are free to keep using v7 for as long as Apple or Microsoft allow the app to be installed on the OS. > 1Passwords 2FA OTP auto-fill is such a blessing. There might be security or technical reasons for removing this option, but looking at how hard they've been trying to get me into a subscription during the last couple of years I just think we're on a bad case of subscription-all-the-things here. 1Password 8 for iOS is available to download on the App Store. Umm, the thousands of successful software companies before subscriptions, microtransactions and advertising were common in the software industry would like a word with you. It seems like you'd be happier with a community product that has less support, but is available for free - and thankfully you have that option. Or will 1Password 7 users be given free upgrade to 1Password 8 like from 1Password 4 to 6? No, that is not misinformation. The secret part is that they've gone to great lengths to bury the standalone version 7 link on their website, and now they're claiming that not many people buy it. 1Password 8 for Android / Crash on long press on password. (have about 400 passwords and security Qs in 5 vaults). Since it is important that my wife can use the same database even if we have one iCloud-account each. 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